12176+3428 SKF 2701 AB

Coord 2000	12176+3428		Discov num	SKF2701		Comp	AB		Coord arcsec 2000	12 17 34.32 +34 28 15.5
Date first	1956		Date last	2019		Obs	13
Pa first	199		Pa last	200.3		P.A. Now (θ)	200.3°
Sep first	4.6		Sep last	3.829		Sep. Now (ρ)	3.829"
Mag pri	11.00		Mag sec	13.50		delta mag (ΔM)	2.5		Spectral class	G0V (yellow)
Pri motion ra	-038		Sec motion ra
Pri motion dec	-012		Sec motion dec
Notes

Nature of this double is uncertain.

Show	name	SAO	coord	wds_name	last	obs	pa	sep	mag1	mag2	d_mag	orb	current
Show			12 17 34 +34 28 16	SKF 2701 AB	2019	13	200	3.8	11.00	13.50	2.50		<===
Show			12 17 34 +34 28 16	SKF 2701 AC	2015	13	153	37.6	11.00	12.80	1.80

Triple system
3 estimated visually detectable stars in this system

Constellation

Canes Venatici

Tycho2

2529-01273-1

Gaia DR2

4029042029341959168

No records found.

refcode	metd	author	reference
Skf2000	Ma -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2000		Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 8, 2000 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2002	C -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2002		private communication, 2002
Skf2002		(measure based on 2MASS data, may not be properly precessed)
Skf2003	-	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2003		private communication, 2003 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2004	-	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2004		private communication, 2004 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2004		(coordinates and identifications for Stock & Wroblewski pairs)
Skf2005	C -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2005		private communication, 2005 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2006	-	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2006		private communication, 2006 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2006b	Pa -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2006b		private communication, 2006 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2006b		(data mining of Stephenson, C.B., AJ 91, 144, 1986)	1986AJ.....91..144S
Skf2006c	Po -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2006c		private communication, 2006 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2006c		(data mining of Joy & Abt, ApJS 28, 1, 1974)	1974ApJS...28....1J
Skf2007	-	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2007		private communication, 2007 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2009	E2 -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2009		private communication, 2009 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2010	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2010	+E+	private communication, 2010 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2010	+Pa
Skf2011	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2011	+E+	private communication, 2011 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2011	+H+
Skf2011	+M+
Skf2011	+P+
Skf2011	+T
Skf2011b	Pa j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2011b	+E+	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 19, 2011 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012	A j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012	+C	private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012	+E+
Skf2012	+H+
Skf2012	+P+
Skf2012	+T+
Skf2012b	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012b		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012b		(measure calculated from component coords in Alcock et al., ApJ 562, 337, 2001)	2001ApJ...562..337A
Skf2012c	Ci -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012c		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012c		(measure calculated from component coords in FLX2006)	2006ApJ...639..816E
Skf2012d	Pa j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012d		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012d		(measure calculated from component coords in Fresneau et al., A&A 469, 1221, 2007)	2007A&A...469.1221F
Skf2012e	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012e		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012e		(measure calculated from component coords in Slesnick et al. 2002)	2002ApJ...576..880S
Skf2012f	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012f	+H	private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012f		(measure calculated from component coords in Romano et al., A&A 488, 1221, 2008)	2008A&A...488.1221R
Skf2012g	C -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012g		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012g		(measure calculated from component coords in Trullols et al. 1997)	1997A&A...324..549T
Skf2012h	C -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012h		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012h		(measure calculated from component coords in Herbig, ApJ 497, 736, 1998)	1998ApJ...497..736H
Skf2012i	H -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012i		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012i		(measure calculated from component coords in Najita et al. 2000)	2000ApJ...541..977N
Skf2012j	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012j		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012j		(measure calculated from component coords in Luhman et al. 2003)	2003ApJ...593.1093L
Skf2012k	C -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012k		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012k		(measure calculated from component coords in Cohen et al. 2004)	2004AJ....127.1602C
Skf2012l	C -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012l		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012l		(measure calculated from component coords in Littlefair et al, MNRAS 358,341,2005)	2005MNRAS.358..341L
Skf2012m	H -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012m		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012m		(measure calculated from component coords in Lada et al., AJ 131, 1574, 2006)	2006ApJ...131.1574L
Skf2012n	C -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012n		private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012n		(measure calculated from component coords in Mayne et al. 2007)	2007MNRAS.375.1220M
Skf2012o	E -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012o	+E2	private communication, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012o		(measure calculated from component coords in Poleski et al. 2011)	2011AcA....61..199P
Skf2012q	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2012q	+E+	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 20, 2012 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2012q	+H+
Skf2012q	+Mr
Skf2012q	+P+
Skf2012q	+T
Skf2013	A j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2013	+C	private communication, 2013 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2013	+E+
Skf2013	+H+
Skf2013	+Ma
Skf2013	+P+
Skf2013	+T
Skf2013b	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2013b	+E+	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 21, 2013 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2013b	+H+
Skf2013b	+P+
Skf2013b	+T+
Skf2013c	E -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2013c	+Pa	private communication, 2013 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2013c		(measure calculated from component coords in Galadi-Enriquez et al. 1998)	1998A&AS..131..239G
Skf2014	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2014	+E+	private communication, 2014 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2014	+H+
Skf2014	+P+
Skf2014b	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2014b	+E+	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 22, 2014 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2014b	+H+
Skf2014b	+M+
Skf2014b	+P+
Skf2014b	+T
Skf2014c	E -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2014c	+Pa	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 22, 2014 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2014c		(measure calculated from component coords in Galadi-Enriquez et al. 1998)	1998A&AS..131..239G
Skf2014d	Pa w	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2014d		Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 22, 2014 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2014d		(measure calculated from component coords in Fresneau et al., A&A 469, 1221, 2007)	2007A&A...469.1221F
Skf2015	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2015	+E+	private communication, 2015 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2015	+H+
Skf2015	+P+
Skf2015	+T
Skf2015b	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2015b	+E+	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 23, 40, 2015 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2015b	+Hw
Skf2015b	+P+
Skf2015c	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2015c	+E+	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 23, 49, 2015 (may not be properly precessed)
Skf2015c	+H+
Skf2015c	+P+
Skf2015c	+T
Skf2015d	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2015d	+E+	private communication, 2015 (list 38; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2015d	+H+
Skf2015d	+P+
Skf2015d	+T
Skf2015e	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2015e	+E+	private communication, 2015 (list 39; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2015e	+H+
Skf2015e	+P+
Skf2015e	+T
Skf2016a	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2016a	+E+	private communication, 2016 (list 40; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2016a	+H+
Skf2016a	+P+
Skf2016a	+T
Skf2016b	Pa j	Skiff, B.A. (measure in Csr2016)	...................
Skf2016b	+P	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 24, 40, 2016
Skf2016b	+E2
Skf2016b	+Ht
Skf2016b	+Eu
Skf2016b	+C
Skf2016b	+Hw
Skf2016b	+Er
Skf2016c	P+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2016c	+C	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 24, 43, 2016
Skf2016c	+E+
Skf2016c	+H+
Skf2016c	+P+
Skf2016c	+T+
Skf2016d	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2016d	+E+	private communication, 2016 (list 41; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2016d	+H+
Skf2016d	+P+
Skf2016d	+T
Skf2016e	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2016e	+E+	private communication, 2016 (14 June email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2016f	C -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2016f	+E+	private communication, 2016 (list 42; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2016f	+H+
Skf2016f	+P+
Skf2016f	+T
Skf2016g	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2016g	+E+	private communication, 2016 (list 43; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2016g	+H+
Skf2016g	+P+
Skf2016g	+T
Skf2016h	Hg -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2016h		private communication, 2016 (1 December email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2016i	Hg -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2016i		private communication, 2016 (20 December email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2016j	Hg -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2016j		private communication, 2016 (24 December email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017a	C+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017a	+H	private communication, 2017 (13 January email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017b	Hg -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017b		private communication, 2017 (14 January email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017b
Skf2017c	C+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017c	+E+	private communication, 2017 (30 January email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017c	+H+
Skf2017c	+P
Skf2017d	Hg -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017d		private communication, 2017 (26 Febuary email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017e	C+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017e	+P	private communication, 2017 (9 March email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017f	E+ -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017f	+H	private communication, 2017 (24 May email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017g	P+ u	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017g	+C+	Webb Soc., Double Star Circ. 25, 62, 2017
Skf2017g	+E+
Skf2017g	+H+
Skf2017g	+T
Skf2017h	Hg -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017h		private communication, 2017 (24 June email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017i	H+ w	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017i	+P+	private communication, 2017 (11 July email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017i	+E+
Skf2017i	+C
Skf2017j	H+ w	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017j	+P+	private communication, 2017 (15 July emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017j	+E
Skf2017k	C+ -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017k	+E+	private communication, 2017 (17 July emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017k	+H
Skf2017l	C+ -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017l	+E+	private communication, 2017 (18 July emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017l	+H
Skf2017m	P+ w	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017m	+E+	private communication, 2017 (20 July emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017m	+H+
Skf2017m	+C
Skf2017n	E+ -	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017n	+H	private communication, 2017 (25 July emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017o	E+ w	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017o	+P+	private communication, 2017 (20 August emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017o	+C
Skf2017p	E+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017p	+P+	private communication, 2017 (2 October emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017p	+C+
Skf2017p	+H
Skf2017q	E+ w	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2017q	+P+	private communication, 2017 (3 October emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2017q	+H
Skf2018a	E j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018a		private communication, 2018 (18 January emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018b	E+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018b	+C	private communication, 2018 (10 February emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018c	E+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018c	+C	private communication, 2018 (16 February emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018d	E+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018d	+C	private communication, 2018 (6 March emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018e	E+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018e	+not	private communication, 2018 (15 March emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018f	not j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018f		private communication, 2018 (9 March emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018g	Hg j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018g		private communication, 2018 (20 March emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018h	H j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018h	+E	private communication, 2018 (6 April emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018i	H j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018i	+P	private communication, 2018 (19 October emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018j	H j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018j	+P	private communication, 2018 (24 November emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2018k	H j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2018k	+P	private communication, 2018 (19 December emails; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2019a	H j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2019a		private communication, 2019 (16 July email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2019b	H j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2019b		private communication, 2019 (6 August email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2019c	j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2019c		private communication, 2019 (16 August email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2019d	H j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2019d		private communication, 2019 (11 September email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2019e	H+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2019e	+E	private communication, 2019 (30 July email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2019f	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2019f	+E+	private communication, 2019 (list 44; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2019f	+H+
Skf2019f	+P+
Skf2019f	+T
Skf2019g	Z j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2019g		private communication, 2019 (8 October email)
Skf2020a	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2020a	+E+	private communication, 2020 (9 March email; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2020a	+H+
Skf2020a	+P
Skf2020b	C j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2020b	+E+	private communication, 2020 (list 45; may not be properly precessed)
Skf2020b	+H+
Skf2020b	+P+
Skf2020b	+T
Skf2020c	Hg j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2020c		private communication, 2020 (5 August email)
Skf2020d	Hg+ j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2020d	+Ek	private communication, 2020 (23 August email)
Skf2020e	Hg j	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2020e		private communication, 2020 (31 August email)
Skf2020f	E	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2020f		private communication, 2020 (22 November email)
Skf2021a	Hg	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2021a		private communication, 2021 (13 March email)
Skf2021b	H+	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2021b	+E+	private communication, 2021 (15 November email)
Skf2021c	Hg	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2021c		private communication, 2021 (16 December email)
Skf2022a	E	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2022a		private communication, 2022 (12 September email)
Skf2022b	Hg	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2022b		private communication, 2022 (28 September email)
Skf2022c	E	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2022c		private communication, 2022 (17 October email)
Skf2022d	E	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2022d		private communication, 2022 (12 December email)
Skf2022e	Hg	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2022e		private communication, 2022 (19 December email)
Skf2023a	Hg	Skiff, B.A.	...................
Skf2023a		private communication, 2023 (28 February email)

coord_2000	discov_num	comp	epoch	obs	pa	sep	mag_pri	mag_sec	spectr	notes	coord_arcsec_2000
12176+3428	SKF2701	AB	2014	7	201	3.8	11.00	13.50	G0V		121734.32+342815.5
12176+3428	SKF2701	AB	2015	9	201	3.9	11.00	13.50	G0V		121734.32+342815.5
12176+3428	SKF2701	AB	2019	12	200	3.8	11.00	13.50	G0V		121734.32+342815.5

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Radius: auto 0.5" 0.8" 1" 2" 3" 5" 10" 15" 20" 25" 30" 35" 40" 45" 50" 55" 1' 2' 3' 4' 5' 6' 7' 8' 9' 10' 15' 20' 30' 40' 50' 1° 2° 4° 5° 8° Components only

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FoV: 30" 1' 5' 15' 30' 1° 2° 4° 5° 8° Limit: 2 3 4 5 10 15 20 25 30 50 100 Primaries only
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Show name coord_2000 discov# comp pa sep dist(') Show 12176+3428 SKF2701 AB 200 3.8 Show 12176+3428 SKF2701 AC 153 37.6 Show 12181+3440 COU 786 43 2.3 14 Show 12187+3412 LDS4201 270 66.6 23 Show 12198+3432 SLW 708 65 109.0 29 Show 12207+3500 HO 536 96 3.7 50 Show 12210+3400 SKF2704 330 127.7 52 Show 12133+3448 LDS4193 294 18.3 57 Show 12194+3335 LDS4202 224 126.2 59 Show 12198+3523 ITF 110 294 5.9 62 Show 12126+3351 SKF2587 134 32.5 73 Show 12164+3542 UC 170 29 24.9 75 Show 12218+3529 KPP1091 75 9.0 80 Show 12234+3508 CVR1426 355 4.8 83 Show 12108+3439 RAO 273 288 0.6 85 Show 12156+3550 TDS8287 288 0.7 85 Show 12165+3304 CHR 37 172 0.3 86 Show 12244+3507 CVR1429 181 3.1 92 Show 12100+3451 SLW 688 205 11.2 97 Show 12220+3309 UC 2324 157 48.6 97 Show 12126+3546 STF1613 7 1.2 99 Show 12095+3356 GRV 853 324 63.5 105 Show 12143+3252 SHN 152 -1 0.4 105 Show 12113+3316 HJ 2600 341 11.7 108 Show 12141+3247 A 2058 BC 274 3.0 110 Show 12141+3247 STF1615 AB 88 26.8 111 Show 12105+3316 CBL 376 304 13.8 114 Show 12232+3257 HDS1744 275 0.2 116 Show 12160+3233 CVR1418 133 3.1 118 Show 12097+3536 UC 2284 308 24.7 118 Show 12265+3347 RAO 657 316 0.2 119 Show 12116+3605 STF1607 AB 28 27.0 122 Show 12116+3605 STF1607 AC 355 36.2 122 Show 12116+3605 STF1607 BC 310 20.4 123 Show 12279+3425 POP 57 353 10.1 126 Show 12070+3421 ES 2224 AB 19 1.9 131 Show 12070+3421 SKF2582 AB,C 257 51.7 131 Show 12112+3621 CVR1411 10 3.0 138 Show 12193+3209 SLW 707 87 172.6 142 Show 12286+3348 LDS4216 257 4.2 143 Show 12176+3205 LDS1288 330 6.6 144 Show 12100+3237 SLW 689 125 143.3 147 Show 12223+3644 DEA 78 AB 254 19.6 148 Show 12223+3644 KPP3253 Aa,Ab 8 1.1 148 Show 12077+3305 RAO 272 330 0.3 149 Show 12140+3655 ES 1739 293 4.9 153 Show 12051+3448 TDS8213 135 0.9 156 Show 12049+3437 LEP 48 296 20.0 157 Show 12243+3644 KZA 31 AB 319 44.2 159 Show 12243+3644 KZA 31 AC 98 47.4 159 Show 12191+3151 RAO 274 AB 219 1.7 159

	A	B
B	pa=197.0° sep=3.75"
C	pa=156.9° sep=36.34"	pa=152.7° sep=33.56"

Coord arcsec 2000	121734.32+342815.5		Mag	11		Spectral class	G0V (yellow)		PmRA	-38.00
PmDE	-12.0		Tycho2	2529-01273-1

Tycho2	2529-01273-1		Pflag			RAmdeg	184.39299700		DEmdeg	34.47098807
PmRA	-31.2		PmDE	15.7		E RAmdeg	30		E DEmdeg	33
E pmRA	4.0		E pmDE	4.1		EpRAm	1986.42		EpDEm	1985.54
Num	5		Q RAmdeg	2.6		Q DEmdeg	4.2		Q pmRA	2.7
Q pmDE	4.2		BTmag	11.903		E BTmag	0.091		VTmag	11.139
E VTmag	0.076		Prox	999		TYC	T		HIP
CCDM			RAdeg	184.39311833		DEdeg	34.47101528		EpRA 1990	1.79
EpDE 1990	1.68		E RAdeg	46.1		E DEdeg	53.2		Posflg
Corr	0.0

Coord arcsec 2000

121734.23+342811.9

Mag

13.5

Calc delta mag

2.5

Calc coord

yes

Coord arcsec 2000	121735.47+342742.1		Mag	12.8		Spectral class	F8 (yellow-white)		PmRA	-45.00
PmDE	-8.0		Calc delta mag	1.8		Calc coord	yes